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jack white wrote: 23 May 2019, 22:38 Paul Mulville does a good job locally although one of my pet peeves is a politician who seems to change party as often as he changes his socks. First he was Labour, then he was Independent, now he's a Social Democrat.
While Paul was involved with Labour when he was younger, he was elected as an Independent and the SocDems weren't around in 2014 so that would explain why he later joined. Paul was the person who proposed the Moratorium to the council, but it didn't have the support of FF, FG, Independents, Socialist Party and SF.
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I wouldn't judge a candidate on their support for the moratorium. Given the housing crisis, it's difficult for larger parties to support it as the optics aren't good when viewed nationally.

While I would agree with the moratorium on principle in terms of our lack of infrastructure, I couldn't see how it could be implemented from a legal perspective. Can you stop a developer building on land they own for which they have planning permission?
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Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 I wouldn't judge a candidate on their support for the moratorium. Given the housing crisis, it's difficult for larger parties to support it as the optics aren't good when viewed nationally.
and therein lies the problem. working for the party and not for the people. i couldnt care less about the party. the elected local reps are there to serve the local people not their party.
Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 While I would agree with the moratorium on principle in terms of our lack of infrastructure, I couldn't see how it could be implemented from a legal perspective. Can you stop a developer building on land they own for which they have planning permission?
this wasnt the objective of the moratorium. it was proposed to stop any future large development until such time as the infrastructure is in place. A very reasonable request and one that everybody should have supported. Many/most EU countries have that in place wherby infrastructure is built first. But in Ireland we simply accept things because well "as shure twill be grand like".

whether or not the moratorium would have been legal or not is besides the point. It showed me where the candidates loyalties lay.

at the end of the day, despite what one particular candidate says, and their supporters who are quite blatently commenting on social media posts everywhere, Donabate/Portrane is a dumping ground. It seems we are being used to satisfy the needs of developers and not residents. That much is clear to me. I don't know why this is the case but it is. Any right thinking person would surely agree that infrastructure needs to be in place before housing. I don't think we have any idea how congested this town is going to become in the next 5 years. Most people don't realise and it's a big worry.

Not one of the candidates as far as I can see is against housing. Housing is clearly required. But housing at the expense of quality of life is crazy. That is why I'm giving my vote to someone who is willing to challenge the current approach and not just accept what we are told to accept.
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aoifey wrote: 24 May 2019, 10:09
Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 I wouldn't judge a candidate on their support for the moratorium. Given the housing crisis, it's difficult for larger parties to support it as the optics aren't good when viewed nationally.
and therein lies the problem. working for the party and not for the people. i couldnt care less about the party. the elected local reps are there to serve the local people not their party.
Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 While I would agree with the moratorium on principle in terms of our lack of infrastructure, I couldn't see how it could be implemented from a legal perspective. Can you stop a developer building on land they own for which they have planning permission?
this wasnt the objective of the moratorium. it was proposed to stop any future large development until such time as the infrastructure is in place. A very reasonable request and one that everybody should have supported. Many/most EU countries have that in place wherby infrastructure is built first. But in Ireland we simply accept things because well "as shure twill be grand like".

whether or not the moratorium would have been legal or not is besides the point. It showed me where the candidates loyalties lay.

at the end of the day, despite what one particular candidate says, and their supporters who are quite blatently commenting on social media posts everywhere, Donabate/Portrane is a dumping ground. It seems we are being used to satisfy the needs of developers and not residents. That much is clear to me. I don't know why this is the case but it is. Any right thinking person would surely agree that infrastructure needs to be in place before housing. I don't think we have any idea how congested this town is going to become in the next 5 years. Most people don't realise and it's a big worry.

Not one of the candidates as far as I can see is against housing. Housing is clearly required. But housing at the expense of quality of life is crazy. That is why I'm giving my vote to someone who is willing to challenge the current approach and not just accept what we are told to accept.
All you blow-ins are all talk.

The planners in Fingal said that the infrastructure in Donabate is well able to support the current building.
At least one of the reps from the peninsula had the sense to stand up to the numpties and their mean-spirited moratorium.
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So you're saying there is no issue, there is no standstill at 8, the trains aren't full to the brim, nobody was injured driving into an ill conceived island which was covered in muck thanks to trucks driving along the hearse road because the promised DDR was not delivered. We didn't need a new road surface in Donabate in May, nobody was unable to make it through the village with schoolchildren is safety whilst precariously staying clear of thundering lorry drivers "who were on a schedule"? Nobody pushed through applications in total disregard of earlier communal agreements made between the local community and the county?

Ok then...

Fincoco has no regard whatsoever for the peninsula and no intention to invest. The vested interest of some of the candidates is blatant.

Maybe take off your blinds, maybe come out of hiding behind anonymity while you're at it...
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Genghis Khan wrote: 24 May 2019, 13:29 All you blow-ins are all talk.

The planners in Fingal said that the infrastructure in Donabate is well able to support the current building.
At least one of the reps from the peninsula had the sense to stand up to the numpties and their mean-spirited moratorium.
ah yes, name calling is always a good way to get involved in a discussion :roll:

The planners said its ok so that means it must be ok! Do you always believe everything you are told?
Or only everything you are told by the person you follow so loyally?

It's a little bit funny watching the same loyal followers of a particular candidate sing that persons praises all over social media. That person can do no wrong in their eyes. It's dangerous to support someone so loyally and blindly. That's not democracy in my eyes.

I have my own mind and neither follow a party or a person. I will vote for the person I think truly and genuinely cares about the area.
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Genghis Khan wrote: 24 May 2019, 13:29
aoifey wrote: 24 May 2019, 10:09
Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 I wouldn't judge a candidate on their support for the moratorium. Given the housing crisis, it's difficult for larger parties to support it as the optics aren't good when viewed nationally.
and therein lies the problem. working for the party and not for the people. i couldnt care less about the party. the elected local reps are there to serve the local people not their party.
Ken wrote: 24 May 2019, 07:56 While I would agree with the moratorium on principle in terms of our lack of infrastructure, I couldn't see how it could be implemented from a legal perspective. Can you stop a developer building on land they own for which they have planning permission?
this wasnt the objective of the moratorium. it was proposed to stop any future large development until such time as the infrastructure is in place. A very reasonable request and one that everybody should have supported. Many/most EU countries have that in place wherby infrastructure is built first. But in Ireland we simply accept things because well "as shure twill be grand like".

whether or not the moratorium would have been legal or not is besides the point. It showed me where the candidates loyalties lay.

at the end of the day, despite what one particular candidate says, and their supporters who are quite blatently commenting on social media posts everywhere, Donabate/Portrane is a dumping ground. It seems we are being used to satisfy the needs of developers and not residents. That much is clear to me. I don't know why this is the case but it is. Any right thinking person would surely agree that infrastructure needs to be in place before housing. I don't think we have any idea how congested this town is going to become in the next 5 years. Most people don't realise and it's a big worry.

Not one of the candidates as far as I can see is against housing. Housing is clearly required. But housing at the expense of quality of life is crazy. That is why I'm giving my vote to someone who is willing to challenge the current approach and not just accept what we are told to accept.
All you blow-ins are all talk.

The planners in Fingal said that the infrastructure in Donabate is well able to support the current building.
At least one of the reps from the peninsula had the sense to stand up to the numpties and their mean-spirited moratorium.
unless your using your arse for a hat, you know the infrastructure out here is in a jock.
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Genghis Khan wrote: 24 May 2019, 13:29All you blow-ins are all talk.

The planners in Fingal said that the infrastructure in Donabate is well able to support the current building.
At least one of the reps from the peninsula had the sense to stand up to the numpties and their mean-spirited moratorium.
Ah well if the planners in Fingal said the infrastructure in Donabate is well able to cope with the current building well then that must be true!! Of course we're all going to take heed of what they say. The truth is Fingal are being by passed by Glenveagh etc as these developers are all lodging their applications to An Bord Pleanala. Once Fingal get the contribution for each house that's built,they are happy. Donabate is not for the native Donabate people anymore as far as i can see which is why i will be getting out ASAP.
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So we have a General Election coming up.

I hope we do not have the same eye scratching zip tied posters on nearly every post around the peninsula, or have them placed where can distract drivers.

There should be nothing but road signs along Hearse Road, there's enough incorrect signage related to road works as it is.

Election campaigns should not affect road or pedestrian safety.

Have been tempted to take many down myself until I saw a courts prosecution of someone cutting zip ties on electoral posters.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.4093266
I think there's bigger crimes that need courts attention.
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