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New Social Housing

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 12:28
by Mr. Stupid
In the latest edition of Donabate magazineon page 6, it says there are 1,200 housing units going near the Donabate distributor road and 800 housing units going to the Oldtown Mooretown. Then it says this will all 'greatly assist in catering for social and affordable housing demand in North County'.

So how many of these 2,000 unit will go towards social and affordable housing?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 19:19
by BRUCE
Not sure.. I believe it used to be one in twelve new homes had to be social & affordable.

What always struck me is, if a proportion of houses are social & affordable, does that mean the rest are anti-social & unaffordable :?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 20:08
by Mr. Stupid
Good point Bruce.

If a certain percentage are for people with no income then surely a certain amount should be for people who are completely loaded. Where's the balance?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 20:13
by Mr. Stupid
Right joking aside. It looks like 10% is was builders have to do...
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-a ... -1.2337762

So does that mean if someone pays 590K for one of those new houses in Rahillon they will be on the same road as someone who gets it for free? Previously developers got out of this by just paying off local authorities but what now... Similar question to the 200 houses going in at the top of Beresford? And all the new Donabate estates?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 01 May 2017, 09:57
by linksman
I believe 20% of houses are going to be social,with the remainder private.

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 08 May 2017, 08:27
by Austy
I think the term Social & Affordable is a catch all term. Usually, the development will include blocks of 2 and 3 bed terrace homes (usually 4 to a block) or duplex type houses. There can also be smaller 2 and 3 bed houses intersperced with the other houses. These houses are usually bought by the council and the families that move in pay mortgages on a 50/50 basis or with some assistance of some kind. I don't think that you'll have someone paying a mortgage on a house bought for €590k and someone in the same house next door living for free.
If you look at the plans for some of the new developments (Beresford for example) it shows the different mix of housing that is being built.

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 08 May 2017, 13:20
by Mr. Stupid
If you get anti - social behaviour from people in social housing - does that make more or less social?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 09 May 2017, 08:28
by Austy
People who can afford a €590k house can be every bit as anti-social, but we never confront them because they are 'one of us'! It's not like the council estates of old with neighbours who either have a horse on their front lawn (if there is one) or 5 old bangers that are being stripped for parts over the next 10 years.

I know of 2 couples who have recently moved into what is termed social and affordable housing, in both cases they have good jobs and live an entirely normal life, it's just they could never hope to afford the deposit for a house due to their circumstances. With the assistance of the local authority, they have their own home and pay a mortgage through an arrangement with the council. Only because I know them personally, there is no outward sign that they are in social and affordable housing.

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 09 May 2017, 21:53
by Mr. Stupid
Ok so you socialise with people living in social housing who don't engage in anti-social behaviour. Do they vote for the Socialist Party?

Re: New Social Housing

Posted: 10 May 2017, 08:14
by Austy
You mean do they vote? :lol: