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The changes have been proposed to improve the long term viability of the service by providing an additional morning and evening peak service from Portrane and Donabate to Swords to supplement services on Route 33b and to provide additional capacity in the Holywell area.

pat_rafter wrote:

The changes have been proposed to improve the long term viability of the service by providing an additional morning and evening peak service from Portrane and Donabate to Swords to supplement services on Route 33b and to provide additional capacity in the Holywell area.

“The changes …. Blah blah blah… by providing an additional morning and evening peak service“

How can they constitute this as an additional service, instead they are reducing 2 services into one…
Holywell already has capacity on 41x, 142, Swords Express and with a 5-10 minute walk the 43 also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holywell,_ ... _Transport

pat_rafter wrote:HI
Update from Cllr Adrian Henchy

I have heard back from Dublin Bus and I can confirm that they are currently reviewing the 33d timetable. It is proposed to operate the 33d service from The Burrow Portrane via Seaview, Swords Bypass Hollywell the M1 in the am and via Holywell, Swords Main street on the return journey. I was also advised that a revised timetable will be introduced in the near future.
It appears that the rationale for Dublin Bus making this decision is due to the under capacity of this service into the City centre at peak times.

I have urged Dublin Bus to reconsider this decision on the basis that, the service provided at the moment is the only direct route to the city for the residents of Donabate & Portrane and again home in the evening. There is currently no other direct scheduled bus route to the city centre for the community of Donabate & Portrane in comparison to Swords which is already well connected with both public and private services operating back and forth to the City Centre at regular times. I also pointed out to Dublin Bus that this service at times is the Peninsula’s only link to the City particularly when the train services are down.

I do believe if this route is detoured through Holywell the people using the service will no longer use it as it will take longer to arrive at their destination therefore Dublin Bus will lose out on revenue and eventually cut the service.

I would also like to point out at the last Fingal County Council Area Committee Meeting an emergency motion was put forward asking that this service continue in its current state. This motion was passed and signed by nearly all the Councillors.

I have requested that Dublin Bus hold off on this plan for the foreseeable future and I will continue to make strong representation on your behalf.

Yours Sincerely,

Adrian

I would like to thank Cllrs Henchy and Mulville for their efforts on our behalf in trying to retain our service as is on the 33D.

micropoodle wrote:IMO local reps in general are not proactive people when it comes to politics. They seem to wait for a critical mass of people so that they can jump on a populist bandwagon.

This particular issue is going to affect the people of Donabate for years and years to come if it is not dealt with now. We are shortly going to go back to a few years ago when our only direct form of public transport to the city centre was intermittent trains outside of rush hour and trains too crowded to use comfortably during rush hour.

not only do we need to keep this service we need to increase the direct service to town during rush hour.
why do Malahide, Skerries, Rush, Lusk, Balbriggan etc all have bus services to town? Why do we (as usual) get left out? Poor public representation. It's been that way for many many years

Derek wrote:

micropoodle wrote:IMO local reps in general are not proactive people when it comes to politics. They seem to wait for a critical mass of people so that they can jump on a populist bandwagon.

This particular issue is going to affect the people of Donabate for years and years to come if it is not dealt with now. We are shortly going to go back to a few years ago when our only direct form of public transport to the city centre was intermittent trains outside of rush hour and trains too crowded to use comfortably during rush hour.

not only do we need to keep this service we need to increase the direct service to town during rush hour.
why do Malahide, Skerries, Rush, Lusk, Balbriggan etc all have bus services to town? Why do we (as usual) get left out? Poor public representation. It's been that way for many many years

Excellent points.

If you look at the 33 / 33A off peak, these are lightly loaded like the 33B yet there is no obvious talk of these routes being butchered. Then again, these routes serve the hinterland of a two TD's, one of whom is a government mininster.....

AlanD wrote:Head of Dublin Bus asserts numbers are half those on 33x. I repeatedly insisted on seeing the numbers for other services, not just the single high capacity service he chooses to suit himself.
He refused outright.

I would encourage anyone interested in preserving the only bus route from Donabate to the city, and the only service of any kind from Portrane to the city, to write to Dublin Bus, cc NTA, and public reps asking is all 50% capacity services are to be compromised and, if so will they be refusing the subvention funding they receive in the future for supposedly maintaining a public service rather than a purely profit driven one. Otherwise, is it just us being crapped on yet again

Dublin Bus wrote:Dear Deputy Farrell,
Following feedback from both customers and public representatives we have amended our original proposal . This proposal involves a slight alteration to the routing with a minor adjustment to the current departure times, thus minimising customer disruption. We have discussed alternatives to our original proposal with the NTA.
It is intended to implement the proposed changes to Route 33D in the first quarter of 2015.

I wish to advise that our operating records for 2014 show average daily loadings on Route 33D of 45 passengers on the am service and 35 passengers on the pm service. However, in light of feedback received from our customers and following representation from public representatives, we have revised our original proposal.

This proposal involves slightly altering the routing, with a minor change to the current departure times, thus minimising disruption for our existing customers. We have discussed this alternative to our original proposal with the NTA in this regard.

I can confirm that Dublin Bus intend implement the proposed changes to Route 33D in the first quarter of 2015. It is company policy to advise customers in advance of all Schedule/ timetable changes via Dublin Bus website, on bus information leaflet and print media.

Apologies but we are not in a position to give you the proposal